Wikipedia talk:Teahouse

Assistance for new editors

The Teahouse is currently semi-protected, meaning the Teahouse pages cannot be edited by unregistered users (IP addresses), as well as accounts that are not confirmed or autoconfirmed (accounts that are at least 4 days old with at least 10 edits on English Wikipedia).

However, you can still get direct assistance on your talk page. ; a volunteer will visit you there shortly!

There is currently 0 user(s) transcluding the {{Help me}} template looking for assistance from Teahouse volunteers.

Brief semi-protection applied

Recent extended periods of ip disruption have caused me to very temporarily semi-protect the page. Any admin is welcome to downgrade this protection if desirable. Thanks to the many different editors who have helped deal with this disruption. I apologize for my protection choice on this very newbie-facing page; it's not something I enjoy at all. BusterD (talk) 01:04, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

Don't worry; you or another admin will be reapplying it soon enough once it ends. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 01:38, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

To me, the fact that there were many different editors who have helped deal with this disruption makes protection unnecessary. HiLo48 (talk) 02:08, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

Help deal with disruptions like this is boring.

"01/24/2025" in the morning (UTC+1). I participated in the defense of the teahouse.

When defenders are defending , they are using time that could be used for others tasks in Wikipedia.

I hold to thanks all others defenders including those who semi-protect the page.

Each of us is essential. Anatole-berthe (talk) 05:00, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

Creating a page that already existed in another language

Planning to create a page Michael Ade-Ojo, but I notice the page already existed in Hausa. Is it okay to create a new page which has already been created in another language? Opyquad (talk) 07:57, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

There's no issue, just be aware sourcing and notability requirements may be different on different wikipedias. CMD (talk) 08:54, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

@Opyquad I can say to you @CMD had explained to you the basis.

I saw few works you done for "Wikipedia in English".

Before translate. I advise you to read "Wikipedia:Translation".

Also , I advise you to read "Wikipedia:Notability (people)" and "Wikipedia:Reliable sources". Anatole-berthe (talk) 19:42, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

THInvite script

Not sure where else to post this, so it'll go here. I have the THInvite script installed, but for two days in a row now it has automatically sent THInvite templates to people when my internet briefly disconnects, no matter what page I'm on. Yesterday the script automatically sent a Teahouse invite to @Departure–: without me even being on their talkpage. Today, I was working on 2024 Sulphur tornado and the script automatically sent me an invite to myself, despite me not clicking anything. Has anybody else had this issue? Apologies if this is the wrong place to report this. :) — E_F⁵ 18:58, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

Do you know if you were looking at a history when this happened? It seems the message go sent to people working on the same kind of extreme weather you do. All the best: Rich Farmbrough 12:45, 12 February 2025 (UTC).

@Rich Farmbrough: Happened again yesterday, while I was looking at January 5–6, 2025 United States blizzard. Yes, it's usually people who edit topics similar to me, because they are who are most likely to end up on my watchlist. E_F⁵ 14:23, 12 February 2025 (UTC)

@EF5: You want the tech village pump, which is where the "tech people" hang out. I note (from viewing your account JS) you're using numerous user scripts; the odds are one or more of these has something to do with it, possibly a conflict between different scripts which don't "get along" perfectly. You might find this annoying but unfortunately the troubleshooting process will probably have to start with "disable them all and see whether it keeps happening". --Slowking Man (talk) 04:52, 15 February 2025 (UTC)

Three harrumphs for attention

I was told to raise this point over here. Hello. —ReadOnlyAccount (talk) 00:09, 17 February 2025 (UTC)

This text comes from MediaWiki:Semiprotectedpagewarning, I think. I'm not sure what a solution would be, just wanted to mention what causes it. --rchard2scout (talk) 01:29, 17 February 2025 (UTC)

NOTICE: AN APOLOGY TO VERY NEW EDITORS

Just a quick observation to those editing the introductory template: Might it not be worth mentioning the ability to directly contact a Mentor with their question? Nick Moyes (talk) 23:14, 18 February 2025 (UTC)

Question about reporting repeated vandalism

Hello, I am a new editor. I just created an account to remove an instance of vandalism I witnessed. The specifc page is Brachydactyly type D. I have successfully reverted the edit that contains the vandalism, and I am now about to leave a warning on the IP address's talk page. I noticed that on this talk page, the sections are divided into specific months in each year. Each month, warnings start over at level 1/blue. The warning I would be leaving on their page is for their first instance of vandalism in February 2025. However, they already have a warning in January 2025 for vandalizing the same page. This would also be their third warning in 2025. Would it be appropriate to send this person a level 3 warning, or must it be a level 1 warning? In addition, looking at the IP's contributions, it appears that all contributions they have made since 2018 have been reverted for vandalism. I would like to report this person, but I worry that they might not have been warned enough this month to be reported. Though, I think that it is safe to believe that any contributions they make in the future will be vandalism. I apologize if this is not the correct place to ask. I have been reading all of the pages on removing vandalism, and I have not yet found an answer to my question. Thank you. Evilnice (talk) 22:56, 20 February 2025 (UTC)

@Evilnice You've asked your question on the wrong page (this is a Talk page for discussing the management of the Teahouse). The main Teahous epage is HERE. But, yes, it would have been quite appropriate to leave a Level 3 warning in the circumstances you describe. Had it been many months ago when they were last warned, you might start again with a level 1 or Level 2 warning. I notice they have since been blocked by an administrator for repeated disruption.

Please acknowledge you've seen this repl,y as I will be removing it from this talk page in the next week or so. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 17:27, 9 March 2025 (UTC)

Header change

Re this change by Moxy, if we keep it, we should use or similar templates to ensure it only shows up when needed. Sdkb ^talk 06:44, 24 February 2025 (UTC)

Put into Template:If IP Moxy🍁 06:48, 24 February 2025 (UTC)

Sorry I see its normal Semi-protection using Template:If autoconfirmed instead Moxy🍁 07:12, 24 February 2025 (UTC)

The message people get who are not autoconfirmed...

... and try to ask a question on the Teahouse tells them that they can't edit this page and "If you need help getting started with editing, please visit the Teahouse." Absolutely Kafkaesque. Surely we can do better. - Jmabel | Talk 23:40, 20 March 2025 (UTC)

There’s an LTA who consistently targets this page, see above. E_F⁵ 23:42, 20 March 2025 (UTC)

Nevermind, I see what you mean. E_F⁵ 23:45, 20 March 2025 (UTC)

This has been mentioned a couple of times on this talk page and on the Teahouse as well. The wording comes from MediaWiki:Semiprotectedpagewarning, which is fully protected. I think suggesting new users direct their questions to their mentor would be the best replacement, but I'm unsure the technical methods to provide that information. Barring that, perhaps a mention of the {{Help me}} solution mentioned above would help? Perfect4th (talk) 20:59, 21 March 2025 (UTC)

Pls read teahouse header when logged out. Moxy🍁 02:26, 22 March 2025 (UTC)

MediaWiki:Semiprotectedpagewarning is the message autoconfirmed users see when editing a semi-protected page. The message non-autoconfirmed users see in that situation is Template:Protected page text/semi, which does not, and has never, linked to the Teahouse. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 18:54, 22 March 2025 (UTC)

Ohhhh I see..... MediaWiki:Semiprotectedpagewarning...perhaps we should be changing this since the teahouse is useless for them. Get rid of the teahouse stuff and add a link to the talk page through the help template so they can get help on their own talk page? Moxy🍁 19:15, 22 March 2025 (UTC)

Ah, thanks, Pppery, that makes more sense and is much more helpful. Perfect4th (talk) 19:47, 22 March 2025 (UTC)

Oh, and when trying to edit the Teahouse specifically they instead see Template:Editnotices/Protection/Wikipedia:Teahouse which I set up a month or so ago by copying the banner from the top of this page (and did the same for the Help Desk). * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 19:49, 22 March 2025 (UTC)

We should use our automated system and set this up for them instead of them having to copy and paste... Make it as easy as possible....use ... ; a volunteer will visit you there shortly! Moxy🍁 19:59, 22 March 2025 (UTC)

You're a template editor ... feel free to edit that page yourself. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 21:50, 22 March 2025 (UTC)

This seems a better solution than directions alone, and I've boldly gone ahead and added it to the talk header. Perfect4th (talk) 22:06, 22 March 2025 (UTC)

And I've copied that over to the editnotice and set them up to autosync. Wikipedia:Help desk/Banner/Help desk protected notice is separate and probably needs a similar change. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 02:33, 23 March 2025 (UTC)

I've now done so there. Perfect4th (talk) 07:23, 23 March 2025 (UTC)

Yep, we always can. - ParticularEvent318 home (speak!). 07:41, 30 March 2025 (UTC)

Teahouse being semi protected

Why is the Teahouse semi-protected despite being a help page? - ParticularEvent318 home (speak!). 06:09, 30 March 2025 (UTC)

@ParticularEvent318: due to persistent disruption of a particularly serious nature from a certain vandal. Some details can be found in the other threads on this page. JavaHurricane 06:29, 30 March 2025 (UTC)

Moderation-process halted

Moved to Wikipedia:Teahouse § Moderation-process halted

 – —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 01:51, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

Identifying and Removing Predatory Sources

Moved to Wikipedia:Teahouse § Identifying and Removing Predatory Sources

 – —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 01:33, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

Unblock access and edit permission

Moved to Wikipedia:Teahouse § Unblock access and edit permission

 – —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 17:09, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

Why did someone lock the teahouse?

Did someone lock the teahouse to keep me out? L$Aiden$L (talk) 19:16, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

@L$Aiden$L: No. We're dealing with a persistent vandal. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 21:33, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

L$Aiden$L, no, the public logs for the teahouse will show that the teahouse has been almost uninterruptedly "semi-protected" for months, and thus since well before you made your first edit. -- Hoary (talk) 21:57, 6 April 2025 (UTC)